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Old 05-26-2012, 02:44 AM   #1
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I have a alpine white f30 320ed on order and want to change the alloy wheels upon arrival. My understanding is that the ed comes slightly lowered with non rft 16" rims. Would i be able to change the wheels to say 19" 313 m sport alloys?

For the record the car will be a lease and im not concerned about the MPG as the business pays for this

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Old 05-26-2012, 06:35 PM   #2
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I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to put 19" on the car, as long as they fit the F30.

As I see it, the car is just closer to the sports suspension or a lowering kit, and as far as I know, the ET or anything else hasn't been changed.

Mine has arrived and is at the dealer right now. Will pick it up next Friday
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:00 AM   #3
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Thanks BMW DK, will you be changing your wheels? Let me know if you do and what you change them too? I'll post picks up of mine when I take delivery - mid July - cant wait
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:02 PM   #4
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Check out the images in my sig. Swapped out the stock 18" for 19" VMR v718s, best change to the F30 328i so far.

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Old 05-27-2012, 01:11 PM   #5
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wow fantastic rims tim..... ill be changing the standard ed wheels as soon as that car is delivered..... im thinking black against the alpine white paint?
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:54 PM   #6
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wow fantastic rims tim..... ill be changing the standard ed wheels as soon as that car is delivered..... im thinking black against the alpine white paint?
I love the white and black theme - I'm sure if you find the right wheels it will look awesome.

As the company pays for the tires, I can't really change them or the wheels.

I have however a set of BBS Challenge 18" with ET 35 that I'm going to try on the car, but just to see how it looks. I probably won't keep them on.
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Old 05-29-2012, 10:00 AM   #7
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I love the white and black theme - I'm sure if you find the right wheels it will look awesome.

As the company pays for the tires, I can't really change them or the wheels.

I have however a set of BBS Challenge 18" with ET 35 that I'm going to try on the car, but just to see how it looks. I probably won't keep them on.
I also like the white and black look. Make sure you post pictures of the Challenge wheels when you try them on.

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Old 06-05-2012, 12:46 AM   #8
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Picked up my car last Friday and so far everything has been great

I plan to get the car on a dyno next Saturday to see if the car only have 163 PS as stated by BMW or more like the standard 320Ds 184 PS. Looking at realoem I can't find any differences in the engine to the standard 320D and the 5 series EDE comes with 184 PS as standard. I cross my fingers.

Then, if the weather permits, I hope to get a chance to try on my BBS CH wheels on Sunday.

I have read on the net that EDE versions come without RFT tires. Mine came with Goodyear EfficientGrip RunOnFlat tires however Had hoped to avoid RFT tires so that I would be able put normal tires on the car.
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Old 06-07-2012, 04:39 PM   #9
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Fantastic BMW dk let us have the hp results... 3weeks left till mine is delivered....is your engine noise really as bad as all ate making out?? I have had a 325i and now 320i do expecting some clatter but hoping its liveable?? Pics pls when u try the wheels on.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:36 AM   #10
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I've tried my old BBS CH on the new car.

The tyres are slightly small as they are on 225/40-18 and not 225/45-18 as is used on the F30. They also have some (a lot of) scratches

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I also got the car dyno tested on Saturday. The car is supposed to have 163 PS and 380 NM, so 171 / 383 is not bad. I had hoped that the PS would be higher and closer to the normal 320d, rated at 184 PS / 380 NM.

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To me it looks like the EDE version is mapped to reduce NM after 2500 revs in order to make sure that the driver is shifting to a higher gear.

I haven't been able to find any differences to the engine between the 320d and the EDE, so I really believe that we are talking mapping only.

The pictures are very small, how do I make them bigger?
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:49 AM   #11
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thanks for the images, the wheels look great on. Im a little concerened that BMW only authorise a certain wheel size....... would i void warentee by changing the wheels? Whats your view on the engine noise/cabin noise, im really concerned its going to be LOUD.....

Dont know how to make the images any bigger sorry!!! Thanks for posting.
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:38 PM   #12
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thanks for the images, the wheels look great on. Im a little concerened that BMW only authorise a certain wheel size....... would i void warentee by changing the wheels? Whats your view on the engine noise/cabin noise, im really concerned its going to be LOUD.....

Dont know how to make the images any bigger sorry!!! Thanks for posting.
I'm pretty sure you won't have a problem with warranty. Whether you get a problem with legislation, I don't know.

In Denmark its not illegal to put different size tires on a car as long as the diameter is about the same and they don't stick out. Nobody will think about it anyway, as all they see it as a potent 3 series or at least a 320D

I only made a test drive yesterday and have been working from home today, so I haven't really driven the car that much since I put the "new" wheels on. It did however sound louder than with the standard set up, but not something that irritated me. Two things to note here. The tires are too small and they are close to be worn out. So some of that noise could disappear if I put new tires on instead.

I have a road trip the next couple of days so I'll try the BBS wheels and see what I think after that.
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:25 PM   #13
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Update - today I fitted 18" f30 sports wheels and were fine till I hit 80 and the vibration was terrible.... These were professionally fitted and balanced so it wasn't that. I think that BMW only allow ed wheels on the ed model.

Has anyone else successfully fitted any other wheels and driven at any speed above 75/80? I have had to put the original wheels back on.

For sale f30 sport alloys with brand new tyres alloy style 397....offers over 1k collection from Cambridgshire... Real reluctant sale. P.harrington76@hotmail.co.uk or 07977069777
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:48 AM   #14
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ED with the sports wheels on

Pics of the sport alloys attached - having read through various other forums people with the older version of the ed seem to have sucesfully changed the alloys but it seems hit and miss..... again if anyone has managed to fit and drive with different alloys at speed please let me know how you did it? tire pressures/adjustments made to eradicate the vibration/shuddering at speed.


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Old 07-09-2012, 09:19 AM   #15
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What is 'ED' in this context?
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:42 AM   #16
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Hay Tim, with ED im refering specifically to the Effecient Dynamics version of the F30. As you can see from the posts/pics i have managed to get the 397's on but at speed they felt like they were going to vibrate off the car.....

Really interest to see if ANYONE has managed to change the wheels or any suggestions?
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:44 AM   #17
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That is what I thought but wanted to double check. Is it possible the hub diameter is different then the wheel center bore? That would create a vibration issue like you're talking about.

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Old 07-09-2012, 09:57 AM   #18
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No the hub was the same... we tried to up the pressure drop the pressure..... very odd. My thoughts were that it has to have something to do with the extra weight that the 18's carried compared to the extreamly light 16's. maybe is programmed into the ECU or the struts/wishbones can only take a certain weight? I question this question/statment also as individuals seem to have changed the previous ED models wheels.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:39 AM   #19
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As stated above, I put my old BBS CH wheels on my car, for some weeks. I was supposed to take the car to a track day, and wanted to try on the wheels / tyres instead of the standard 16". Sadly I wasn't able to make it.

During the two weeks we did drive around 2000 miles in the car with no problems. I have driven at speeds above 90 mph - no problems. The only issues we had, were the same as the ones we had on the E46: The front tyres are Bridgestone RE050's and they feel very nervous at higher speeds. The Goodyear F1 Asymmetric on the other hand are very stable.

We have had the car for 40 days and done more than 4000 miles so far :-) . 10 days ago my family and I (5 people) drove to France with the car fully packed for vacation. In Germany I reached 230km/t => 143 Mph easily. This is with the standard wheels however. The car felt very stable and secure.

To be honest, I don't think that they have changed anything on the car, that could result in "EDE" specific issues compared to the standard versions. I see no savings gained but the cost would be significant.

If you have the time you could go to the "realoem" website and try to compare the 320d to the 320d ede and see if you can spot any differences. I did it with the engine and found only a few differences. Differences that would have no influence on performance = the difference is in the ECU!

I'm convinced that the differences between a 320d and 320d ede car, are aerodynamics, gearing (higher), different ECU programming (less torque at higher revs = earlier shifts) and that ECO-Pro mode is set at default instead of comfort mode. Everything else is "politics" (Wheel sizes, no performance package and so on).

The cars can't be equipped with a "tow hook" (right word?), but whether that is politics or because of underbody aerodynamics parts I don't know. I did notice some aerodynamic part on the suspension as I fitted the wheels, but didn't take the time to take a photo of them. Don't know if all F30s have them.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:03 AM   #20
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Hi DK

Thanks for the update, Im really pleased you have managed to get the car up to speed on the 18's and i hold out hope that somehow i can get the 397's back on and make them work. The trouble is im stumped at what to do next. The alloys are original BMW's and only did 1k miles the tyres are brand new............ ill have to spend some time checking to see if the struts/suspension is different to the standard SE/Sport versions.

On the ECU - would you be looking to remap? Im considering a v-box but i think i need to get the bigger wheels on for stability 1st....... thoughts on this also pls.
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