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Old 04-15-2011, 12:11 AM   #1
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What do you think BMW will do for a new M3?

Me and one of my friends where talking about the track seeing as though its spring time now. We got on the topic which im sure everyone has heard about that the New mustang is slightly slower than the M3 on motor trends race track. And it got me thinking that BMW must not be happy with this and are most likely thinking up a new designs / upgrades for it so it will be able to blow Ford and other american cars out of the water. What do you think BMW will be mainly focusing on to upgrade?

Suspension?
New Engine?
Total redesign of the car?
Im interested to see what you guys think
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:14 AM   #2
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:16 AM   #3
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:25 AM   #4
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:37 AM   #5
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:40 AM   #6
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:42 AM   #7
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:42 AM   #8
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Awd tt v6
A new rumor for bmw is that they will be putting in a awd system in their m3 and m5 so that might be before the new model shows up
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:43 AM   #9
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the details have already been released to a certain few
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:29 AM   #10
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A new rumor for bmw is that they will be putting in a awd system in their m3 and m5 so that might be before the new model shows up
To make it awd is to defile what it is to be a bmw, much less a sporty car.

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Old 04-15-2011, 02:32 AM   #11
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Jesus, that is a huge Inline 6 motor.
bmw made a 3.4L inline 6 for the e34 535i, so it's not really anything they've never done before.
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To make it awd is to defile what it is to be a bmw, much less a sporty car.


+1, though maybe with the twin scroll like PK mentioned.
tell bmw that, they're trying to reach out to their M audience who deals with a lot of snow throughout the year
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tell bmw that, they're trying to reach out to their M audience who deals with a lot of snow throughout the year
not only that, but with the absurd power that these cars are getting, you really need awd to make the most use of them. a good example is the recent c&d audi tt rs and bmw 1m comparo. even though both cars have nearly identical hp, torque, and weight, the tt rs was nearly 1 sec faster to 60 and 1/4 mile due to awd, dsg, and launch control. when it comes to high powered cars, technology is significant in making the most use of these power. sure straight line speed may not be everything, but awd and technology will make the best use of the power when powering out of corners as well. we all love the basic rwd and manual tranny setup, but at some point the power becomes too overwhelming for that basic setup to be the most effective.
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not only that, but with the absurd power that these cars are getting, you really need awd to make the most use of them. a good example is the recent c&d audi tt rs and bmw 1m comparo. even though both cars have nearly identical hp, torque, and weight, the tt rs was nearly 1 sec faster to 60 and 1/4 mile due to awd, dsg, and launch control. when it comes to high powered cars, technology is significant in making the most use of these power. sure straight line speed may not be everything, but awd and technology will make the best use of the power when powering out of corners as well. we all love the basic rwd and manual tranny setup, but at some point the power becomes too overwhelming for that basic setup to be the most effective.
BMW doesn't build their Motorsport vehicles with the dragstrip in mind. AWD weighs more, negatively impacts weight distribution and has a greater overall powertrain loss. A vehicle that is light, nimble and well balanced is far more advantageous to the track.
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